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H David Reines, Marian Wulf-Gutierrrez and Guillermo Gutierrez.

We thank Dr Chapman for his comments on new approaches to control hemorrhage. We agree that conservation of blood and blood products is not just an economic concern, but it is necessary to protect a limited resource and to prevent untoward effects of such products. Our sections on hypertonic saline and the use of blood substitutes were meant to address this issue directly. We limited our discussion to a general discussion of hemorrhagic shock and did not specifically address surgical approaches to the control of bleeding. 'Damage control' and packing is a valid concept in the treatment of severely injured patients with hemorrhage 4. This approach was frequently used in battlefields, and has become more popular in civilian injury as a method for preventing death from coagulopathy and hypothermia in the operating room. The use of radiological embolization as a technique to control ongoing hemorrhage from solid organs such as the spleen and the liver has also supplemented its use in pelvic hemorrhage. This technique is not necessarily an ideal therapy for patients who are in shock. Operative intervention is still necessary in unstable patients.

We agree that pharmacological manipulation may be an adjunct to good surgical practice. There are anecdotal reports on the use of activated recombinant factor VII to control bleeding in trauma patients, as well as in numerous other patient populations who do not have hemophilia. The unencumbered use of this extremely expensive treatment has led to the loss of millions of dollars in uncompensated care and occasional significant complications. The present status of this potentially important addition to the armamentarium is under investigation. Prospective studies need to be performed to establish efficacy and criteria for use before we embark on this new approach.

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