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      <dochead>Letter</dochead>
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               <p>Department of Pathology, Magee-Womens Hospital of University of Pittsburgh Medical Center, Halket Street, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15213, USA</p>
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         <source>Breast Cancer Research</source>
         <issn>1465-5411</issn>
         <pubdate>2008</pubdate>
         <volume>10</volume>
         <issue>5</issue>
         <fpage>404</fpage>
         <url>http://breast-cancer-research.com/content/10/5/404</url>
         <note>See related research article by Tamimi <it>et al.</it>, <url>http://breast-cancer-research.com/content/10/4/R67</url> and related letter by Tamimi <it>et al.</it>, <url>http://breast-cancer-research.com/content/10/5/405</url></note>
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            <date>
               <day>26</day>
               <month>9</month>
               <year>2008</year>
            </date>
         </pub>
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      <cpyrt>
         <year>2008</year>
         <collab>BioMed Central Ltd</collab>
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            <p/>
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         <p>We read with interest the article by Tamimi and coworkers recently published in this journal <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B1">1</abbr></abbrgrp>. The authors compared the molecular subtypes of invasive carcinoma versus ductal carcinoma <it>in situ </it>and found significant differences, as expected <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B1">1</abbr></abbrgrp>. However, we have some concerns regarding the criteria used in the study.</p>
         <p>First, the authors classified estrogen receptor (ER)-positive/human epidermal growth factor receptor (HER)2-positive tumors as luminal B (LUMB). Although this classification is in accordance with that used in the Carolina Breast Cancer Study <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B2">2</abbr></abbrgrp>, the LUMB tumors &#8211; as identified by gene expression profiling &#8211; were all negative for HER2 <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B3">3</abbr></abbrgrp>. The LUMB tumors are defined as tumors that show low to moderate expression of luminal specific genes, including the ER cluster <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B3">3</abbr><abbr bid="B4">4</abbr></abbrgrp>. Extrapolating these findings to routine practical use, one must use semiquantitative immunohistochemistry (Allred-score, Q-score, or an H-score like method) <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B5">5</abbr><abbr bid="B6">6</abbr><abbr bid="B7">7</abbr><abbr bid="B8">8</abbr></abbrgrp> to define and distinguish luminal A (LUMA) and LUMB tumors. A large amount of information is lost when one labels a tumor as a mere ER-positive one, because a tumor in which 15% of cells exhibit weak ER staining is biologically different from one that demonstrates strong intensity staining in about 90% of cells. Although the vast majority of ER-positive tumors show strong immunoreactivity, approximately 20% of tumors exhibit variable ER expression. ER expression in breast carcinoma is a continuous variable, which has been demonstrated not only by immunohistochemistry and ligand binding assay, but also by quantitative RT-PCR assays <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B6">6</abbr><abbr bid="B9">9</abbr><abbr bid="B10">10</abbr><abbr bid="B11">11</abbr></abbrgrp>. Moreover, using data from the NSABP B-14 clinical trial, Baehner and coworkers <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B12">12</abbr></abbrgrp> demonstrated that the greater benefit from tamoxifen is seen in patients with greater ER expression, as determined by RT-PCR.</p>
         <p>Although it is difficult to define a cut-off, any ER-positive/HER2-negative tumor showing diffuse and strong ER expression in two-thirds of the tumor (an H-score of 200 or higher) could be considered to be a LUMA tumor and the remainder of ER-positive/HER2-negative tumors could be considered LUMB. Although not the most accurate, this arbitrary cut-off is simple and keeps the category of LUMA tumors as pure as possible using immunohistochemistry. The ER-positive/HER2-positive tumors could similarly be subdivided into LUMA-HER2 hybrid (LAHH) and LUMB-HER2 hybrid (LBHH), based on ER expression levels. The LBHH tumors probably correspond to the originally described luminal C tumors <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B3">3</abbr></abbrgrp>. LAHH tumors definitely exist but do not have a molecular correlate. We believe that this distinction is necessary before studies utilizing surrogate immunohistochemical markers are undertaken, because HER2-positive tumors should be separated from pure luminal tumors, which should be further categorized as LUMA and LUMB tumors.</p>
         <p>Second, the authors considered HER2 2+ expression by immunohistochemistry to be a positive finding. Numerous studies have shown that only one-quarter of immunohistochemical score 2+ cases demonstrate HER2 gene amplification by fluorescence <it>in situ </it>hybridization <abbrgrp><abbr bid="B13">13</abbr></abbrgrp>. The authors did mention that 'the results of analyses in which HER2 positivity was defined as 3+ were very similar to those presented with a definition of 2+ and 3+'. However, the more important question is about the comparison of '2+ only' cases with '3+ only' cases.</p>
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         <st>
            <p>Competing interests</p>
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         <p>The authors declare that they have no competing interests.</p>
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